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Post York show Part 2

Continuing from the last post. I mentioned a revision to the lead in from the cassettes to the layout. Below is a quick video of a bit of a drastic test.

In reality no trains will inter the layout at this speed and aside from the industrial entrance behind the warehouse none of them will be pushed.

The cassettes are finally done.  This is the long ones in their storage position in the station end fiddleyard.

And the DMU and loco ones in the Dudley end fiddleyard.  Im not usually one for counting parts but including the 5 connectors on the layout thats a total of 86 ends, 172 springs and just over 6 meters of copper strip.  Ive had better projects to do before now!

On to the tweaks on the layout itself.  Just a few of these.  Those at the show may have seen the odd derailment of stuff coming into the Stourbridge platform.  The Derby lightweight seeming particularly susceptible to this.  Turns out the barrow crossing on the left hand rail has become loose and was higher than the rail head. The crossing on the Dudley line was also a tad high but not loose so I’ve removed both to get a better fit.  The Derby lightweight will be checked too to see if theres any problems on the stock side.

I noticed when cleaning the track that one of the smaller sections of track on the threeway was a little low. I don’t recall anything coming off on this particular bit but I’ve fixed it anyway.  There were a few tight spots that have been amended too.  My mint block would go through but with a bit more resistance than I liked. One of the tight spots was between the running rail and the check rail.   Just need to put new half chairs in place and cosmetic fishplates.  Then paint the rail and blend it all back in.

Finally the check rail coming in to the yard was originally an after thought on normal flexi-track.  It wasn’t as neat as it could have been and being normal track there was no gauge widening on what it the tightest curve on the layout.  The far rail was removed with the moulded chairs smoothed away and the rail replaced with proper check rail chairs.

21st May 2025

In a couple of weeks i will be heading back to Crewe for Scalefour Crewe 2025.  This time I will be there demonstrating my approach to building steam locos.  Who would have thought id be getting up to something like that a decade ago?

York show post-mortem

Over the Easter weekend Brettel Road headed north 3 hours to the York MRC exhibition.

Despite a minor cardiac event at 5pm on the Thursday evening when it looked like the van may not be available due to a medical emergency set up went smoothly.  Little did I know what was to come over the next 3 days.

We had problems!  The biggie was that the cassettes were still not reliable, to the point where they were the worst they have ever been. Despite this the guys battled on against the layout that was absolutely determined to fight us ever step of the way (thanks again chaps). There was a problem with the main point into the yard behind the station which I did manage to patch up on the Saturday afternoon and the track in the yard under the bridge (of course it was!) had become damaged. Something we didn’t notice until a member of the public kindly let us know. The whole show was a mixture of frustration and some degree of embarrassment really that the layout was performing as smoothly as the proverbial bag of nails.  Despite all this we did still attract a lot of interest throughout the 3 days and many kind compliments were received along with 4 or possibly 5 requests to take it out to more shows so I guess from the public side of the barrier it didn’t seem quite as disastrous as it did to me.  Thanks to the guys at York MRC for having us and looking after us so well. The elements of the weekend that didn’t involve the layout were great!

Diagnosing the problem

The problem with the cassettes was two fold and wasn’t something we could really address at the show. Brettell Road actually has 45 cassettes in total in 3 different sizes.

When I built and tested them originally, I tested them for resistance using the buzzer in my volt meter.  What I didn’t test was if there was any voltage drop or not.  On the left are 3 loco cassettes of the design we had at York showing a voltage drop of over 5 and a half volts or as good as 40%!  Little wonder it caused us grief. On the right a revised design tested on 3 cassettes with no loss of volts at all. A little diagram of my cassette evolution.  The top design is what I used on the short version of the layout and that seemed to work fine.  As these cassettes were single ended I also fitted a light to them so that we could see that they were electrically connected.

With version 2 I wanted them to be double ended and introduced the idea of smaller loco cassettes.  This had 2 effects. While on version 1 the rails were squeezed tightly by the guide rails on the revised version the fit was less positive.  The second effect is a loco cassette doubles the number of connections.  If everything is really clean they work just fine however in the real word things don’t stay really clean for long. Because of the design, the bits I needed to keep clean were hard to get to and the sort of area what would naturally collect dirt and crud. The loose stock rails were also still prone to go the wrong side of the guide wire and I found many had failed at the soldered joint on the third sleeper in exaggerating the problem.  I guess my absolute minimal solder approach I use when building kits isn’t such a good idea in this application.

The solution is to add contact strips from 0.2mm thick, 5mm wide copper that fold down the front giving a much bigger contact area that, just as importantly is easier to get to to keep clean. I also reduced the length of the rails that stick out and soldered the loose rail to an extra sleeper so it doesn’t move as much.  The cassettes are kept in compression when on the layout by a simple peg (actually cheap, small screwdrivers) fitted into holes drilled into the baseboards.

Now this is a bit belt and braces but on an exhibition layout thats never a bad thing.  Rather than just rely on the springiness of the copper strips I drilled holes behind them and fitted a couple of spring (actually springs from smiths coupling hooks that id been saving for some unknown reason).

Before and after.  The little side parts that hole the cassette ‘buffer stops’ were still causing problems so I’ve decided to remove them completely and redesign the stops.

I also took the opportunity to move the cassettes back a little and extend the lead in roads as we were having derailments coming onto the layout at both ends. This may have been the cassettes or it may have been something else.  Originally I had check rails here but tests of the new sections without them is making me think they were unnecessary.

Pre-show tweaks.

Been doing some final pre show tweaks before Brettell Road heads off to York in a little over a week.

After the last show (nearly a year ago now) there was a little bit of damage picked up.  Nothing too major and the kind of job that I intend to get around to at some point but then don’t.  Case in point this but of fence which got squished.  While working on this area I took the opportunity to add some rudimentary steps to the signal box.  Something I meant to do at the start but didn’t. I had put the gate in but the poor signaller would break his leg falling off the edge of the platform!  There was also a platform light that got bent and thats been repaired and replanted.

Something else that got bashed but didn’t actually break is the chimney on the platform shelter. This has very little clearance to the other board when packed up so rather than wait for it to get smushed I decided to make it removable.  A few magnets popped into holes and a bit of steel on the roof and hopefully thats a problem averted.   I also decided that the roof was a bit too vanilla for a building due to be closed in a week so I’ve had a look at this area too. You may remember i talked about distress paint before when I was building the signal box and I’ve used it again here.  For some reason it didn’t really crinkle up this time so a wash of Tamiya extra thin cement was painted on to add some more wear and tear.  The mossy deposits are AK Interactive dark and light slime with some of their moss deposits.

Next is track cleaning and hoovering before packing the boards away, then the joy that is cleaning wheels!

In an uncharacteristic fit of tidiness I’ve made a proper box for the road vehicles, removable chimneys and coupling poles. When I say ‘made’ I mean got a box off ebay for around a tenner and stuck some foam in it!

The saddle mounted tank I featured last time is done and tested. Finally Railcar W14 waits for the road.  The cats are undisturbed by its presence.

Info on the York show.  Please say hi if you are going.

 

A trio of tanks.

A trio of tanks this time starting with…… the LMS milk tank I featured last time.  Now ready for service.

The Bachmann 14t cradle mounted tank wagon. Very much of its time with a very generic (and pretty rubbish if I’m honest) chassis.

Luckily Justin does something a little more refined and very nice to build it is too.

Ready for the brass bits to be painted. The ladder is only loosely in place. The walkway is from my box of useful stuff (I think Stenson models) and the buffers are from Lanarkshire Models.

Still sticking with the theme of tanks but is a slightly dubious way, work in progress on a 96xx tank.  I originally picked this up quite cheaply with and idea to include it in my scrap train. Round Oak scrapped quite a few locos, but it didn’t take me long to decide to do it as a working loco instead.  Especially as a picture of this very loco heading a freight train through Brettell Lane cropped up in my facebook feed.

As far as I can tell this model by Bachmann is an evolution of the Mainline model I’ve already used to do my 57xx tank, with a later cab and other refinements.  All of the handrails are separately fitted but I felt the handrail knobs were way too big so I replaced them with Alan Gibson ones. I reused the long handrail but as its not so wide i had to cut it in half to lose a little from the middle. The sandbox fillers are too far forward as they were repositioned with RT Models linkages but not before the front splasher was cut down in height.  A compromise for the over sized flanges on the RTR wheels and something that has entered my ‘now I’ve seen it, i cant unsee it’ mindset when looking at model steam locos. Smoke box dart is also Gibson and the lamp irons are from Masokits.  I also replaced the pipes on the footplate. Some 96xx had a bracket half way along with i quite liked but unfortunately 9614 was one that didn’t.

Rear view. The lamp irons were too high up on the bunker. This is correct for a 57xx but on the 96xx tanks they were lower.  I was replacing them anyway. Buffers are Lanarkshire models.  I prefer a better detailed solid buffer over a less detailed sprung one.

Drivers side. The pipework just in front of the cab is the same on both sides of the model. Again OK for a 57xx but on the 96xx they were different with a somewhat more barren look on this side. The footplate pipework is also routed differently around the cab footsteps. Chassis will be a high level one with my working inside motion bodge as described here. https://p4newstreet.com/an-unremarkable-little-tank-engine-part-1/

Finally something that you will never see – Brettell road in the sun!  It was coming in the shed door and caught my attention.

return to milk tanks

My history with milk tanks has been, to an extent unnecessarily convoluted.   Originally I planned to build a David Geen kit for a midland one and I got the Rumney Models underframe for it in preparation.  However when I came to get the kit from David he only had one left and that was for a GWR one. Justin kindly swapped the chassis kit for me and, as I’ve mentioned before, doing battle with my collection of bits I ended up with my model of a milk tank.

However the desire for at least one LMS one never went away and for more years than it really should have been I would discuss the idea of doing one using Rumney bits with a Lima tank when I saw Justin at a show.  Apparently I wasn’t the only one

Well finally, heres what I’ve come up with,  The only bits of the Lima one left are the tank – end supports and filler hatch.  The rest is pretty much all Justin with buffers from Lanarkshire models and the tank supports kindly cut for me by Tim Horn.

The diagonal bracing is obviously over-length at the moment. The strapping isn’t tight and the ladder is just rested in position until after painting.  This seemed much less of a fight than my other one, so much so that I’ve ordered bits to do another 2.

Duchess progress March 2025

Some progress to report on the Duchess test build.

The original design that Geoff did for the cylinders was the same as the 7mm scale Finney kit.  That uses cast slide bars soldered to the rear edge of the cylinder frame. In 4mm scale that wasn’t going to work so David has redesigned this area to use a layered etch that goes through the rear face and solders to the front.  This will be much stronger.

The cylinders viewed from above with the wrappers in place. Just behind the cylinders are the Valve rocking arms which as they need to be removable are held in place with a small screw.

Theres a lot of piping on the footplate of a Duchess! 

The footplate is pretty much complete now.

Made a start on the valve gear

Progress so far.

A batch of good old Airfix kits

I recently picked up a batch of good old Airfix wagon kits.  There were 4 brake vans, a 35t tank, a 16t mineral wagon and a cattle van.  Of those one of the brake vans was finished and another one along with the 16t mineral were semi completed. I really wanted the brake vans as I had identified a need for more BR ones and more that were fitted as up until now I didn’t have any at all, just a couple of piped ones.

Note to self – if you’re going to batch build some wagons don’t pick ones that have loads of different sized handrails!

The first 2.  A piped one and a fitted one, both built with Bill Bedford W irons, Rumney models springs and axleboxes and additional details.  This one is a BR build of the LNER design note the shorter steps, no end handrails and different lamp irons.  Build was the same as the first 2.

This was the last one and the one that was already built.  I replaced the handrails and roof and added the same details as the other 3.  This one is unsprung.

On to the tank wagon. Not one this done before.  This is sprung with Bill Bedford W irons. As supplied the solebars are too shallow so I carefully cut the top rib off flush with the face and added a new top rib from microstrip.  Buffers are from my draw of buffers and I think they may be from A1 models.  RT models do a nice little etch for these and while the ladder supplied is really nicely done it is a flat etch so I replaced them with ones from Rumney models. I replaced the brake gear with bits from the spares box.

The finished wagon.  Transfers are from Cambridge Custom Transfers.

Flights of Fancy – Part 2

I ended the first part of this project by mentioning I needed some bits from Scaleforum.  One of these was the injector which I modified a little from an Alan Gibson one. I also needed some firebox wash out plugs. Again Alan Gibson did the honours. It’s worth noting that they are not on the same places either side.   The cab roof was just a bit of nickel silver rolled to the right radius and a few bits of strip for the rainstrips. The vent was filed up from Evergreen section.  While on the subject of the cab the kit includes some bits and an etched floor. I found the handbrake column, if mounted to the cab floor as the kit was designed, gets in the way when trying to mate the body and chassis together so I cut it from the floor and mounted it to the body instead. The kit specifies that the reversing screw is mounted on the left side of the cab but, while hard to see in photos, it seems to be mounted to the right side so thats what I did.

With everything in place and being happy wit the fit of things the body was given another light undercoat before the missing rivets were added from my dwindling supply of Archers along with some from Railtec.  Thankfully the flatirons dot have a lot of visible rivets.

I don’t normally take a painted but pre-weathered picture but this time I made an exception.  I mentioned in the last post that because of the carzatti front axle the coupling rods seemed backwards to the norm with the joint ahead of the middle axle not behind it. When No.2000 was modified this remained the case.  The kit has the coupling rods the normal way round with the joint behind the middle axle and I’ve never seen a model flatiron (in either 4mm scale of 7mm scale) that addresses this. I found 52f models do a set that have the right wheelbase with the joint in the right place so I used those instead.  One little tip that seems really obvious but I’ve never seen anyone mention (perhaps its because it is obvious to everyone else?) is that I line up the coupling rod on this side with the orientation of the grub screw on the final drive gear.  It makes accessing the grub screw simple should you need to in the future as you know where to stop the wheels rotation.

Below some pictures of the finished loco with my usual caveat of still needing coal and a crew. With her baby sister!

Flights of Fancy – Part 1

Long time readers may remember this illustration I did a fair few years ago.  At the time I was toying with the idea of  BR Flatiron for Brettell Road.  People who know anything about these locos will know that they only made it as far as 1938 before the lastof them went for scrap but my theory was what if they didn’t and made it another 2o years or so?  After all we are all happy to bend the historical truth when it comes to places but why not locos too?

A brief history

Samuel Johnson of the Midland Railway had identified a need for a large passenger tank engine in 1903 and while a 0-6-4 seemed a logical progression of their 0-4-4 tanks several ideas and arrangements were put forward both before and after the design by Deeley was settled on. These ranged from a 4-4-4, a 2-6-2 with odd split side tanks, through several variations of outside cylindered 2-6-4’s and a 4-6-4. All of the class of 40 were built in 1907. As it turned out this was not a wheel arrangement that would become at all common in the UK.  The front axle was mounted into a Carzatti slide giving extra play and resulting in a somewhat backwards arrangement of coupling rod with the knuckle joint ahead of the middle axle and not behind it as was the norm.

In early LMS days the class were fitted wit new superheated Belpair boilers resulting in a different firebox and being longer, the boiler now sticking out from the front of the tanks. The cab spectacle plates were also changed at the same time.

In 1928 loco No.2015 derailed at speed near Newark and a passenger on its train was killed.  2 more derailments occurred in early 1935.  The first instance was when N0.2023 derailed at Ashton under Hill in February, killing its driver.  3 weeks later number 2011 was observed by railway inspectors operating between Leicester and Burton upon Trent only to itself derail 5 days later at Moira. Fortunately this time no serious injuries occurred.  But the reputation had set in, the class were well known as rough riders on anything other than perfect track and were noted to run smoother going backwards.

An idea not completely without precedent.

The case for these locos lasting longer than they did is not without precedent.  Class leader N0.2000 underwent some modifications to see if the riding could be improved. These were the replacement of the front axle arrangement with traditional springs (giving a different look) and an improved bogie with side bolsters. No 2000 was tested against an unmodified classmate No.2012 which itself had recent general repairs and not yet clocked up 1000 miles since.  Both locos were considered to be in first class running order.

On the first test No.2000 ran between 35 and 50 mph before selling back to 35 and it was reported that the engine rode very steadily with no side movement reported of the trailing bogie. Test 2 saw No.2000 run between 45 and 50mph settling back to 45 with the same results. Test 3 was run at 55 and occasionally 60mph and this test was satisfactory enough to try test 4 where she was run over 60mph, reaching a speed of 67 before selling back to 65.  It was reported that a slight amount of side oscillation developed and a slight roll but was still considered satisfactory riding.

No.2012 ran 3 tests.  Test 1, 35mph occasionally touching 40 and the riding was reported as good with a slight oscillation and  roll being perceptible on the footplate.  Test 2 saw 45mph with occasional 47 and the riding was considered fairly good but with more oscillation and tendency to roll. The final test saw running at 55mph with occasional 60 and the riding was reported as rough with the oscillation and roll said to be pronounced and the front end having a tendency to develop an up and down surging motion.

Although the results of the modifications to No.2000 were good Stanier decided that the rest of the class were not worth altering and between 1935 and 1938 they were all scrapped with many of the (standard) parts going on to other locos.  It was reported that many of the boilers were used on 4f’s.

But what if Sanier thought the modification were worth doing to the entire class? They were only 30 years old and many midland locos lasted much longer than that. As the boilers went to other locos they were obviously good so it it such a leap to think that a modified flatiron could indeed make it into BR days with only a slight tweak of history is it?

The Model

Luckily for us South Eastern Finecast do a kit for these loco’s and I’ve had one in the stash pretty much since I did the drawing above.

Starting with the bogie as supplied on the left and my modified version on the right. It’s been modified mechanically to provide basic springing on all 4 wheels and a basic form of sprung side control. As supplied the bogie is designed to be attached to a swinging arm much like the RTR guys tend to do.  I didn’t really like that idea much if I’m honest.

The main frames modified with some spare Brassmasters inside motion bits.  I considered there was no way you would be able to see working inside motion so just modelled the bits I felt you might see if you looked hard enough!

The cab Spectacle plate is a particularity weak point of the kit as it bears only a passing resemblance to the real thing, I made a new one from plasticard as can be seen on the right. If anyone wants the drawing for this (which I admit is a best guess on my part) it can be downloaded from here. The rebuilt cabs also seemed to have slightly longer roofs than the originals and little bits of Nickel strip were soldered to the corners to replicate this. Front view. The kit relied on an upper half of the boiler/smokebox merging with the lower half which is cast as part of the tank front and this forming the front of the smokebox. The end result wasn’t all that round so I cut it back and used a 22mm copper ring in its place Buffers are from Lanarkshire Models and lamp irons from Stenson Models

The rear view.  The steps are cast into the rear of the bunker and where a little chunky.  Also the top one was too low so these were replaced with some of my mk1 coach end steps. The window frames are from a Mainly Trains spectacle plate etch. Note the larger buffers on this end. The top of the tanks are vague as supplied with just casting for the water filer caps and 2 air vents that were related to the water pick up gear. In  reality only 2015 had this fitted so they should be left off all other models of the class.  This is my educated guess of what should be there but i do think there should be more clutter than this.  Photos of this area are rare and so far I’ve only found 2

Progress will now need to wait until after Scaleforum where i need some more bits.